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+[00:00:00] - {Tageswechsel: Samstag, 31. August 2024}
+[02:29:29] <robbat2> FYI: I have finalized the financial statement for FY2024: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Gentoo_Foundation_Finances_FY2024 
+[02:29:35] <robbat2> reviews greatly appreciated
+[10:19:39] <robbat2> my letters as president & treasurer are also ready for review ahead of the meeting: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Robbat2/FY2024_Gentoo_Foundation_Letters  
+[20:23:00] -*- robbat2 sets the virtual boardroom table
+[20:47:42] -*- NeddySeagoon changes the water jug for neat vodka 😀
+[21:00:51] -*- robbat2 bangs the gavel 
+[21:01:25] <robbat2> roll-call: prometheanfire, ulm, soap, dilfridge, robbat2 
+[21:01:39] <robbat2> welcome to the Gentoo Foundation AGM for 2024
+[21:01:43] <dilfridge> hallelujah
+[21:01:55] -*- dilfridge here
+[21:01:57] -*- ulm here
+[21:02:25] <ulm> how many members do we have?
+[21:02:38] <robbat2> i will wait until 19:05 UTC before marking the remaining trustees absent
+[21:03:45] <robbat2> ulm: 56 members of the foundation as of the formal member list
+[21:03:59] <ulm> quorum is 19 members then
+[21:05:31] <ulm> but it was never met in the foundation's history IIUC
+[21:05:35] <robbat2> per section 5.8 of the bylaws, we do have a quorum of trustees present.
+[21:05:56] <robbat2> but I agree we have never had a full quorum of members
+[21:06:19] <ulm> there's bug 676322 :)
+[21:06:19] <willikins> ulm: https://bugs.gentoo.org/676322 "Update the member quorum number to 1/10th of members; the default in NM statute: https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-nfp/message/443c7d847564b0c4391b434db05d1f34"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; CONF; antarus:trustees
+[21:06:49] <ulm> but wouldn't have helped today either I fear :(
+[21:06:56] <robbat2> prometheanfire, soap: reping
+[21:07:47] <robbat2> let's move on regardless
+[21:08:01] <robbat2> who is logging, and who is taking minutes?
+[21:08:08] -*- dilfridge is logging
+[21:08:09] <robbat2> minutes/motions
+[21:08:16] <ulm> I am logging too
+[21:08:40] <robbat2> i guess i'll do the motion updates by default
+[21:08:49] <robbat2> old business first
+[21:09:12] <robbat2> As the president & treasurer, I offer up the annual letters: User:Robbat2/FY2024_Gentoo_Foundation_Letters
+[21:09:21] <prometheanfire> robbat2: pong
+[21:09:37] <robbat2> hi prometheanfire 
+[21:09:51] <robbat2> have the attending trustees had a chance to read the letters?
+[21:09:56] <dilfridge> yes
+[21:09:56] <ulm> yep
+[21:10:04] <prometheanfire> yep
+[21:10:18] <dilfridge> it seemed not the right moment to me to go sponsor-hunting
+[21:10:31] <robbat2> do you have any questions about the president's letter first?
+[21:11:03] <ulm> "The Gentoo Foundation successfully joined the Software in the Public Interest"
+[21:11:03] <dilfridge> well sleepy j... never mind 
+[21:11:10] <ulm> is this technically correct?
+[21:11:22] <ulm> the Gentoo project joined SPI IIUC
+[21:11:23] <robbat2> yes, we were accepted as a project in the SPI
+[21:11:40] <prometheanfire> accepted, but not fully transitioned, ya
+[21:11:49] <dilfridge> became an associated project, yes
+[21:11:54] <robbat2> or is your question the Foundation vs Project?
+[21:12:07] <ulm> yes, Foundation vs Project
+[21:12:14] <dilfridge> not the foundation, but Gentoo Linux as such
+[21:12:41] <dilfridge> https://www.spi-inc.org/projects/gentoo/
+[21:12:55] <ulm> the point is that Gentoo will remain an associated project even after the foundation's dissolution
+[21:13:01] <dilfridge> exactly
+[21:13:06] <robbat2> if the SPI were to ask for for Gentoo's signatory on joining, that is presently represented by the Foundation
+[21:13:09] <robbat2> as a legal entity
+[21:13:27] <robbat2> as the Foundation owns the Gentoo Linux assets right now
+[21:13:45] <dilfridge> (this debate is pointless but) then I dont understand how a project without a foundation could even join
+[21:14:18] <robbat2> in that case, an individual represents another project: as a natural person, rather than a corporate person
+[21:14:31] <ulm> could we update the wording? "Gentoo successfully joined ..."
+[21:14:49] <robbat2> sure, and leave that slightly ambigious
+[21:15:17] <ulm> or "Gentoo Linux" or "The Gentoo project", just not say "Foundation" there
+[21:16:18] <robbat2> refresh the letter and confirm?
+[21:16:20] -*- dilfridge wonders about the Second Foundation
+[21:16:39] <ulm> they hide on Trantor
+[21:16:58] <dilfridge> yes good
+[21:17:01] <dilfridge> very good
+[21:17:31] <ulm> yes, better
+[21:17:36] <robbat2> any other questions? if not from trustees, also for any other attendees?
+[21:18:59] <dilfridge> so right now if I read this correctly we have roughly 10% more expenses than income
+[21:19:16] <dilfridge> which is harmless given our cash reserves would even with that last for ~10 years
+[21:19:27] <robbat2> i'll cover that more in the treasurer letter
+[21:19:30] <dilfridge> ok
+[21:19:50] <robbat2> motion to accept the president's letter
+[21:20:05] <prometheanfire> seconded
+[21:20:08] -*- dilfridge yes 
+[21:20:08] <robbat2> vote by stating: aye/nay/abstain
+[21:20:12] <prometheanfire> aye
+[21:20:22] <robbat2> abstain (I wrote it!)
+[21:20:23] <ulm> yes
+[21:20:47] <robbat2> motion passes: 3 aye; 0 nay; 1 abstain
+[21:21:03] <robbat2> ok, the treasurer's letter now
+[21:21:34] <robbat2> dilfridge: you are correct; but also note our dependency on depreciation
+[21:22:08] <robbat2> if the primary servers @ OSL failed today; brand new replacement would cost >$40k
+[21:22:28] <dilfridge> ack
+[21:22:35] <robbat2> i think we are almost out of their warranty period
+[21:22:37] <ulm> I'm not concerned about reducing cash reserves at this point
+[21:23:09] <dilfridge> so while it's not of immediate urgency, increasing income would be useful
+[21:23:20] <robbat2> we could sustain two such replacements with current funds
+[21:23:21] <ulm> (which isn't really what's happening then the negative amount is due to depreciation)
+[21:23:29] <robbat2> we do need to increase income, but it needs to go into the SPI
+[21:23:49] <dilfridge> this is why I said, bad moment to go sponsor hunting
+[21:24:07] <robbat2> in-kind sponsors; good time; in-cash bad time
+[21:24:52] <robbat2> any further questions about the Financial KPI portion, since we are just discussing that? including from the floor
+[21:25:10] -*- dilfridge looks down at the floor and sees some suswatari
+[21:26:00] <robbat2> only catbus.sparc is powered by coal given the power it draws ;-)
+[21:26:00] <soap> sorry here now
+[21:26:25] <robbat2> hi soap
+[21:26:37] <robbat2> moving on from the Financial KPIs, to the SPI transition
+[21:27:17] <robbat2> SPI's treasurer has been very slow in turnarounds; and these have just been questions about changing the paypal donation setup so far
+[21:27:38] <robbat2> i have offered direct help, e.g. via screensharing to demonstrate to them how to do it, but been deferred
+[21:27:58] <robbat2> this may draw out the transition process :-(
+[21:28:25] <ulm> keep nagging them
+[21:28:40] <robbat2> when it comes to actually closing the bank accounts, we're going to need to get some of the current bank account signatories into a branch it seems
+[21:28:51] <robbat2> due to KYC requirements and the age of our accounts
+[21:29:19] <robbat2> likely antarus, prometheanfire, dabbott together
+[21:29:49] <dilfridge> all US?
+[21:29:53] <robbat2> correct
+[21:30:43] <robbat2> as the current treasurer, I might also have to attend, but i'm still north america
+[21:31:08] <prometheanfire> we'll cross that bridge when needed
+[21:31:10] <dilfridge> well, so far the border is still open :)
+[21:31:39] <robbat2> any questions about the SPI transition financial steps?
+[21:32:29] <dilfridge> not from me atm
+[21:33:36] <soap> nope
+[21:33:53] <robbat2> motion to accept the treasurer's report: please vote with aye/nay/abstain
+[21:33:58] <prometheanfire> aye
+[21:34:04] <robbat2> abstain (as author)
+[21:34:07] <soap> yes
+[21:34:12] -*- dilfridge yes
+[21:34:21] -*- ulm yes
+[21:34:40] <robbat2> motion passes; 4 aye; 0 nay; 1 abstain
+[21:35:11] <robbat2> last item of old business is the new officers
+[21:35:41] <robbat2> to fill legal requirements, we require a US natural person to fill either the president or secretary role
+[21:36:00] <dilfridge> phew
+[21:36:04] <prometheanfire> lol
+[21:36:05] <robbat2> that has to be prometheanfire
+[21:36:17] <prometheanfire> ya, legal from spi?
+[21:36:23] <prometheanfire> or AZ?
+[21:36:28] <prometheanfire> s/AZ/NM
+[21:36:28] <dilfridge> NM, I guess
+[21:36:28] <robbat2> new mexico
+[21:37:11] <prometheanfire> well, time wise I can do secretary, kid is growing so it's a little easier now
+[21:37:11] <robbat2> specifically, the person who signs the required regulatory filing must be a US person AND hold one of those roles
+[21:37:42] <robbat2> i wish to continue as treasurer, but I don't care either way about the president's role
+[21:38:15] <prometheanfire> soap, ulm, dilfridge: president?
+[21:38:19] <dilfridge> ulm for president
+[21:38:41] <soap> ++
+[21:38:45] <robbat2> i don't know if ulm has his own filing requirements if he does that
+[21:38:53] <dilfridge> nah, he did that already 
+[21:39:07] <robbat2> rather: do they need updating to move from trustee to also being president?
+[21:39:08] <ulm> only for board of directors
+[21:39:27] <ulm> presumably would need updating
+[21:39:53] <ulm> also, what problem would it solve? we need an US citizen as one of the officers
+[21:40:10] <robbat2> prometheanfire is willing to be the secretary
+[21:40:11] <prometheanfire> I already said I'd do secretary
+[21:40:27] <robbat2> ulm: if you're willing to accept president; i'll start a motion for that seat
+[21:40:42] <ulm> sorry, not at this time
+[21:41:22] <dilfridge> robbat2: what's the additional ... thing?
+[21:41:31] <dilfridge> (president vs board member)
+[21:41:51] <prometheanfire> running meetings iirc
+[21:42:19] <dilfridge> ((apart from the secret service escort and continous trouble with the area 51 reports I mean))
+[21:42:24] <robbat2> run meetings; be the signatory for acts of foundation interacting with other stuff, e.g. if we had a yubikey deal
+[21:42:51] <dilfridge> I can do it, and need as far as I know no further formal approvals / acts
+[21:43:41] -*- ulm is currently president and treasurer of the e.V. so it would be a little too much
+[21:43:48] <robbat2> motion: dilfridge as president of the Gentoo Foundation for the FY2025 term; vote aye/nay/abstain
+[21:44:00] -*- dilfridge abstain
+[21:44:04] <robbat2> aye
+[21:44:05] -*- ulm yes
+[21:44:32] <prometheanfire> aye
+[21:44:35] <soap> yes
+[21:44:55] <robbat2> motion passes; dilfridge as president of the Gentoo Foundation for the FY2025 term;; 4 aye; 0 nay; 1 abstain
+[21:44:58] -*- dilfridge hears a Mariachi band somewhere in the background
+[21:45:06] -*- robbat2 hands over the gavel to dilfridge 
+[21:45:11] <dilfridge> uh
+[21:45:12] <dilfridge> ok
+[21:45:17] <ulm> :)
+[21:45:36] <robbat2> anybody else interested in the seat of treasurer?
+[21:45:51] <dilfridge> imho changing that now makes no sense
+[21:45:59] <robbat2> changing which?
+[21:46:03] <dilfridge> treasurer
+[21:46:22] <robbat2> i agree, but if anybody else wants it we discuss it
+[21:46:36] <robbat2> i don't expect any challengers
+[21:47:05] <dilfridge> sorry you're stuck with it, let's see it as encouragement to dissolve soon :)
+[21:47:09] <robbat2> dilfridge; do you want to take over with the motions now, or I can handle them for the rest of the meeting?
+[21:47:22] <dilfridge> please handle them, since I have no clue of the agenda
+[21:47:46] <robbat2> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Meetings/2024/08 has the agenda ;-)
+[21:48:02] <robbat2> motion: robbat2 as treasurer of the Gentoo Foundation for FY2025 term; please vote aye/nay/abstain
+[21:48:05] <robbat2> abstain
+[21:48:08] -*- dilfridge yes
+[21:48:12] -*- ulm yes
+[21:48:26] <prometheanfire> aye
+[21:48:47] <soap> yes
+[21:48:49] <robbat2> motion passes: robbat2 as treasurer of the Gentoo Foundation for FY2025 term; 4 aye; 0 nay; 1 abstain
+[21:48:57] <robbat2> last one
+[21:49:10] <robbat2> motion: prometheanfire as secretary of the Gentoo Foundation for FY2025 term; please vote aye/nay/abstain
+[21:49:14] <robbat2> aye
+[21:49:20] <prometheanfire> abstain
+[21:49:28] -*- ulm yes
+[21:49:39] -*- dilfridge yes
+[21:49:59] <soap> yes
+[21:50:00] <robbat2> motion passes: prometheanfire as secretary of the Gentoo Foundation for FY2025 term; 4 aye; 0 nay; 1 abstain
+[21:50:14] <robbat2> that concludes our mandatory officers
+[21:51:02] <robbat2> per bylaw 6.2. Duties; we do have other seats available, including to members
+[21:51:09] <robbat2> if there is any interest
+[21:51:48] <robbat2> must be trustees: chair, vice-chair ; open to members: vice president, assistant secretary, assistant treasurer
+[21:52:13] <robbat2> but I feel with no member attendance, we can move on unless there is other interest in those seats
+[21:52:28] <ulm> let's keep things simple
+[21:52:38] <robbat2> moving on
+[21:52:39] <prometheanfire> agreed
+[21:52:41] <dilfridge> less people to lay off later on
+[21:52:57] <robbat2> community items, infra update: we have no written submissions
+[21:53:22] <robbat2> that's on me for the infra update, and I've been pretty busy with work and the gentoo finances
+[21:53:42] <robbat2> treasurer update: was included in the letter from the treasurer
+[21:53:48] <robbat2> any questions about those 3 agenda items?
+[21:53:51] <dilfridge> no
+[21:53:57] <ulm> no
+[21:54:05] <prometheanfire> no
+[21:54:23] <robbat2> open trustee bugs: https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=CONFIRMED&bug_status=IN_PROGRESS&bug_status=VERIFIED&email2=trustees&emailassigned_to2=1&emailcc2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailtype2=substring&known_name=TrusteesOpenBugs&list_id=3290194&order=Last%20Changed&query_based_on=TrusteesOpenBugs&query_format=advanced&resolution=---
+[21:54:52] <robbat2> there's a lot in here that is not actionable
+[21:54:57] <ulm> bug 936517 can be closed, I suppose?
+[21:54:58] <willikins> https://bugs.gentoo.org/936517 "Social Contract update"; Gentoo Foundation, Licenses; IN_P; ulm:trustees
+[21:55:45] <robbat2> yes; bug 936517 can be closed
+[21:55:45] <willikins> robbat2: https://bugs.gentoo.org/936517 "Social Contract update"; Gentoo Foundation, Licenses; IN_P; ulm:trustees
+[21:55:49] <dilfridge> bug 695360          is obsolete
+[21:55:54] <dilfridge> (funtoo)
+[21:56:23] <robbat2> agreed
+[21:56:40] <robbat2> ulm had wanted to raise 676322 again
+[21:56:43] <dilfridge> i hope these nitrokey bills from 2019 are paid :D
+[21:56:48] <robbat2> Update the member quorum number to 1/10th of members; the default in NM statute
+[21:57:47] <prometheanfire> I'm fine with either of the proposed values (10-15%)
+[21:57:50] <ulm> yes please
+[21:58:29] <robbat2> in terms of process since this is a bylaw amendedment
+[21:59:09] <robbat2> we need a motion of trustees, and then we give notice to members that it takes effect at least 15 days in the future from the notice
+[21:59:44] <robbat2> dilfridge, soap: do you have any questions about this before we put it to a motion? 
+[21:59:51] <robbat2> ulm: pick a one value, 10 or 15%
+[21:59:57] <soap> no
+[21:59:58] <dilfridge> no questions, fine with both values
+[22:00:11] <ulm> let's go for 15% then
+[22:00:46] <robbat2> ulm's point in the bug is salient: 10% is the new mexico default law; and 15% is what the Gentoo e.v. has today
+[22:00:47] <prometheanfire> keeps things the same between ev and us
+[22:01:02] <ulm> would be 9 out of 56 members currently
+[22:01:18] <ulm> 10% would be 6, obviously
+[22:01:46] <ulm> that's just trustees plus 1 member, which doesn't feel right
+[22:02:21] <robbat2> somewhere in the underlying statutes, in such a vote the trustees would abstain
+[22:02:32] <ulm> ah
+[22:02:35] <robbat2> so it's really 5+9 or 5+6
+[22:02:41] <ulm> then I propose 10 %
+[22:02:56] <dilfridge> yes please
+[22:03:17] <prometheanfire> wfm
+[22:03:45] <ulm> it's also the NM default (or at least it was when I last checked)
+[22:04:47] <robbat2> in terms of the notification requirement, when should we set it? I'd like at the start of a business quarter
+[22:05:10] <ulm> that would be 2024-10-01?
+[22:05:17] <robbat2> that means either 2024/10/01 or 2025/01/01
+[22:05:33] <robbat2> 2025 makes it nice and round if you like that sort of thing
+[22:05:36] <ulm> wfm
+[22:05:58] <robbat2> so at a glance, we could say quorum starting in 2025 is 10%
+[22:06:06] <prometheanfire> yep
+[22:06:44] <robbat2> (one sec, drafting the motion text)
+[22:07:59] <robbat2> motion: update bylaw 3.9 member quorum, replace "one-third (1/3)" with "one-tenth (1/10)"; this amended will take effect as of 2025/01/01; vote aye/nay/abstain
+[22:08:08] <robbat2> *this amendment
+[22:08:32] -*- ulm yes
+[22:08:35] <prometheanfire> aye
+[22:08:35] <robbat2> aye
+[22:09:40] -*- dilfridge yes
+[22:10:00] <robbat2> soap: vote please
+[22:12:47] <robbat2> motion passes: update bylaw 3.9 member quorum, replace "one-third (1/3)" with "one-tenth (1/10)"; this amendment will take effect as of 2025/01/01; vote: 4 aye; 0 nay; 0 abstain; 1 absent
+[22:13:09] <robbat2> i'll go around the table for other critical bugs
+[22:13:24] <robbat2> ulm: specific bugs you feel should be addressed in this meeting?
+[22:13:53] <ulm> what's the roadmap for bug 936213?
+[22:14:10] <ulm> (transfer of trademarks to SPI)
+[22:14:28] <robbat2> 936213 is copyrights, 936212 is trademarks
+[22:14:48] <ulm> right, 212 is the one I meant
+[22:15:27] <robbat2> trademarks: i'd like to consult with a trademark lawyer specifically to ask if there's a meaningful action to transfer & renew both in a single step
+[22:15:38] <ulm> (also, must the bug be confidential?)
+[22:15:45] <robbat2> i'm going to reach to rl03 in that regard
+[22:16:15] <ulm> that's Renat Lumpau?
+[22:16:20] <robbat2> correct
+[22:16:52] <robbat2> as one of the foundation alumni, and one of the few practicing lawyers amongst gentoo's alumni ranks
+[22:17:18] <ulm> sounds good
+[22:17:38] <robbat2> copyright: i think we also need to formulate a question for legal advice
+[22:18:14] <robbat2> i feel I have a good handle on understanding the trademark paperwork, but not gaps in transfering copyright
+[22:19:15] <robbat2> specifically, did the release return the copyrights to the original holders, or to the gentoo foundation
+[22:19:39] <dilfridge> which release
+[22:19:51] <robbat2> https://936213.bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=897845&t=g13rHRecb3
+[22:20:24] <dilfridge> afaics that doesnt return or transfer anything
+[22:20:36] <dilfridge> what is done remains done
+[22:20:41] <ulm> that's only a release "from any future duties and obligations"
+[22:21:08] <ulm> but IANAL
+[22:21:38] <soap> robbat2: yes
+[22:21:42] <robbat2> yeah; IANAL and this needs to be sorted out correctly
+[22:22:07] <robbat2> anyway, rl03 has said in the past that complex questions about copyright were not in his wheelhouse
+[22:22:11] <robbat2> so we'll need to find somebody else
+[22:22:30] <ulm> there haven't been many transfer forms anyway, and these were in the remote past
+[22:23:19] <ulm> last time I checked the gentoo repo for something where the foundation would have a clear copyright claim, I had a hard time
+[22:23:33] <robbat2> agreed; it's messy data
+[22:23:47] <ulm> there was one eclass IIRC (subversion.eclass?)
+[22:24:22] <ulm> all the ebuilds have been massively rewritten since 2004
+[22:24:46] <robbat2> sorry I can't provide more detailed answers on that bug
+[22:24:50] <robbat2> does that cover enough
+[22:24:57] <robbat2> to move on in this meeting?
+[22:25:02] <ulm> it might be different for some of the artwork though
+[22:25:19] <robbat2> specifically, ulm, last call for other bugs that you need to discuss here criticaly
+[22:25:19] <ulm> yes, move on
+[22:25:30] <robbat2> dilfridge: same question; do you have bugs that you need to discuss here critically
+[22:25:38] <dilfridge> no
+[22:25:57] <robbat2> soap, prometheanfire: same question; do you have bugs that you need to discuss here critically
+[22:26:12] <prometheanfire> no
+[22:26:29] <soap> nope
+[22:27:42] <robbat2> thanks; moving on
+[22:27:46] <robbat2> activity tracker
+[22:28:13] <robbat2> prometheanfire: I did not find a reimbursement request for last year's filing of the Annual Report
+[22:28:43] <prometheanfire> you won't find it
+[22:29:01] <prometheanfire> consider it an in kind donation I think?
+[22:29:06] <prometheanfire> or something
+[22:29:23] <robbat2> thank you; i'll record it, as recognizing expenses
+[22:29:57] <robbat2> the tax forms will be sorted by the CPA in the next weeks I hope
+[22:30:05] <robbat2> deadline for those is 2024/Nov/15
+[22:30:46] <robbat2> any other questions about activity tracker items? 
+[22:30:52] <robbat2> list is at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Activity_Tracker
+[22:31:08] <robbat2> prometheanfire: when you do next file the annual report, please include a copy in the foundation repo
+[22:31:23] <prometheanfire> ack, I'll make a reminder for myself
+[22:31:51] <robbat2> the 2023 copy is present
+[22:32:26] <robbat2> new business
+[22:32:49] <robbat2> i don't recall if we already pruned the membership list
+[22:32:52] <robbat2> i think so, but need to verify
+[22:33:27] <robbat2> new business from other trustees? ulm, prometheanfire, soap, dilfridge 
+[22:33:31] <ulm> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Member_List was last updated in May
+[22:33:39] <dilfridge> not here
+[22:33:39] <ulm> so probably no pruning
+[22:33:43] <soap> nope
+[22:33:56] <ulm> no new business from my side
+[22:33:58] <prometheanfire> nope
+[22:34:34] <robbat2> no new business
+[22:34:50] <robbat2> cleanup phase; responsibilities
+[22:35:02] <robbat2> log: ulm/dilfridge already accepted
+[22:35:05] <robbat2> i'll do the motions
+[22:35:18] <robbat2> i'm doing the email to rl03; i don't think there are others
+[22:35:53] <robbat2> agenda: we'd need to set the next meeting first
+[22:35:59] <robbat2> channel topic; ditto
+[22:36:26] <robbat2> dilfridge: as you are the new president; i'd like some direction from you about setting the new meeting schedule
+[22:36:38] <dilfridge> we do meetings?
+[22:36:52] <dilfridge> but seriously, more than every 2 months makes no sense
+[22:37:01] <robbat2> other than the AGM, none are required
+[22:37:36] <dilfridge> let's do one before christmas, with gingerbread and glühwein, but until then I see no big need
+[22:37:42] <prometheanfire> we can decide later on if we need a meeting, somewhat hd-hoc
+[22:37:50] <ulm> let's do them when there are actual items
+[22:37:50] <prometheanfire> s/hd-hoc/ad-hoc
+[22:38:09] <robbat2> i thought dilfridge was going to ship some glühwein ;-)
+[22:38:15] <dilfridge> hehe
+[22:38:16] <ulm> also, immediately after a council meeting seems like a good time
+[22:38:23] <dilfridge> yes that is a good point
+[22:39:07] <robbat2> we implicitly have a trustee quorum at council meetings unless 2 of us have proxies/absent
+[22:39:46] <dilfridge> trustee quorum might also be doable at fosdem :D
+[22:40:11] <robbat2> hey, no expensing dinner without treasurer oversight ;-)
+[22:40:18] <dilfridge> hehe
+[22:40:40] <dilfridge> also, xyz got retired
+[22:41:00] <prometheanfire> that was quick
+[22:41:19] <robbat2> the Foundation has covered meals twice in it's history; a group of developers, and a small group of OSUOSL students that also had a few devs in it
+[22:41:45] <robbat2> or maybe 3 times? i don't recall if it happened twice as the prague gentoo miniconf
+[22:43:04] <robbat2> moving on here if there's nothing else: open floor
+[22:44:19] <robbat2> holding floor only till 13:50:04 
+[22:50:17] <robbat2> meant 21:50:04 UTC / 13:50:04 local; meeting closed; dilfridge already has the gavel so I can't use it.
+[22:50:26] <robbat2> thanks everybody
+[22:50:38] <soap> thanks
+[22:50:41] <ulm> thanks
+[22:50:43] -*- dilfridge whacks with it... somewhere
+[22:50:51] <dilfridge> thank you!